August 08 2011
Catching Up [Aug 8 - 13]
Two chances of a chequered nature this week. Your first is the usual quest to complete six straight Times puzzles, from 9076 to 9081, as appearing in The Australian. By my reckoning, Boniface is sailing on 19 straight, while RK, Anthony and I begin the chase on one. (Would I be right?)
Your second opportunity to join the scrimmage is an ad-hoc gathering of DA Trippers, and general crossword tragics, this Saturday in Melbourne. The meeting point is Arcadia, a cafe located at 193 Gertrude Street, Collingwood, at 10am. The powwow’s purpose is a mutual solving session of my weekend puzzle in The Age, plus the chance to meet some fellow cruciverbals over coffee and Danish.
While I realise most Dabblers on this site are non-Melbourne citizens, I thought I’d put the invite on the airwaves nonetheless. Just to spice the recipe, an RMIT film crew will also be attending, hoping to kick-start a doco on this black-and-white subculture. And I don’t mean the blasted magpies.
Comments
Anthony Douglas — 08 August at 01:37PM
I suppose this is the compensation for those poor Aged types having to wait the extra day ...
However, I'm keen to uphold my silver medal position behind our esteemed leader - having found 9076 a bit of a doddle, I'm now on a run of 5. Mind you, just because it was a doddle doesn't mean it wasn't good fun. COD for 14ac and the setter's cheek for a) including such a lovely word and b) putting it in that slot rather than 17ac, where the unches would have given him/her a free pass.
Also found the juxtaposition of 1 and 2dn confused me for a bit, nicely done, and 17ac was the laugh out loud clue for today.
Boniface — 08 August at 02:22PM
I agree with Anthony and liked the various literary references (although Hogwarts could have been mentioned but wasn't). Some of the smaller clues were a bit pedestrian. Overall quite enjoyable.
DA2 — 08 August at 02:22PM
Good workout, 9076, with a query attached to 4ac, and a smile for 21ac. You'll need to call on your erudition for 6dn. That's two for me, vexingly.
RK — 08 August at 04:51PM
Quite enjoyed today's, but the only clue to earn an RK tick was 21ac.
I will join you on two, DA. (The real battle is obviously for third spot.)
Mauve — 09 August at 12:31AM
ah, I would've been there DA, Arcadia being a mere stroll from my place, but alas I was selling games of Which? at the Rose Street Art Market. And doing your xword between victims, I mean customers. ELITISM backwards dammit. I was sure it was a scrabble "mistile" reference (with the 7 letters and all)
Boniface — 09 August at 06:17PM
9077 in the bag and which I thought was fairly 1A. I reckon I'm seeing a few repeat clues... eg 27A and 22D.
First in was 6D, last 28A.
24A was Meh and nasty, I thought.
Today's fave 16D (reminded me of honey bear).
DA — 09 August at 07:21PM
17dn was the nasty one, for any solver who doesn't know his virtuosi. (Read, me.) This guy may well be my Airy, on Puzzle 3!
A very 1ac puzzle, agreed Bon. Thought 6dn was redeemable, 13ac was decent too. While 2dn is my huh. (Knew the line, but can't see the wordplay's full intricacy, unless it's as bad as I suspect.)
RK — 09 August at 07:57PM
No problems with this one, except an echo of DA's huh for 2dn.
17dn is much more widely known than Mr Airy, but I guess if you're not sure of it the setter hasn't been very helpful.
Anthony Douglas — 10 August at 09:37AM
Decidedly unhelpful, I'd argue...sneakily plugging Bernini in a few clues earlier, just so your subconscious would be more likely to look for a BL_I_O_I answer. And then to use 'note'! I was tempted by ALBIFONI ;-)
Still in the hunt. I liked 10ac for the sly anagrind hint.
RK — 10 August at 11:13AM
Just sat down to tackle 9078 with a cuppa and got all of two.
Oh dear.
Anthony Douglas — 10 August at 01:12PM
1dn is pretty tough, unless you know it. An absolute cracker of a clue though.
Long way to go yet.
DA — 10 August at 02:02PM
I feel your pain - just 7 answers at first cuppa. But the clues are adroit, and the hunt is on. Good luck all chasers.
Boniface — 10 August at 02:59PM
Me too - got most of the RHS out at first blush but have really hit the mud with the rest of it. I imagine there will be some interesting commentary on this as we plough through.
RK — 10 August at 04:24PM
I can proudly say I just got 13dn with only the third last and last letters. Love it!
Anthony Douglas — 10 August at 05:09PM
That's impressive - I also have the top two checkers but still can't twig to it.
Ten entries left. But I'm an expert on the NW passage!
Anthony Douglas — 10 August at 05:23PM
Hmm. I also had it, but trusted an insufficient online dictionary. My apologies for joking around.
RK — 10 August at 05:28PM
Seven left for me, mostly in a north-westerly direction.
(And by the way, you gave yourself a clue for 13dn Anthony)
RK — 10 August at 05:29PM
That's what comes from not refreshing.
DA — 10 August at 06:01PM
Good lord, what a Herculean task. Managed to bang out the last dozen with a White Rabbit stout, and enjoyed the ardour. And the chestnut notes too.
A tick for 21ac, 26ac and 27ac, with a tsk-tsk for 4ac (seems to reheat the same word for def and wordplay), plus queries for 20dn and 24dn.
My last entry (after figuring the lettering for 1dn) was the bloke invoked in 28ac. Not sure why, but this name fit.
Yowch. What an ambush, though 10x funner than yesterday's anaemic affair. More of the same, please. Loved the challenge.
RK — 10 August at 08:10PM
Finally got there. That was the cleverest one I've done in a long while. It felt like there were a few more liberties taken than usual which caught me off guard, but it was refreshing all the same.
13dn was my favourite but I also liked 7dn, 3dn and 8dn for various reasons. I've a question mark beside 20dn.
(I don't think I could handle one like this every day, DA.)
Boniface — 10 August at 08:42PM
And a few liberties in the answers for that matter. I've never seen 27A hyphenated, for example. And I wonder if I have the Dan Brown answer right?
I'll thank my lucky stars now that I've been reading AA Milne to my 2 y.o.
Liked the Crufts clue and some others already mentioned.
Anthony Douglas — 10 August at 10:38PM
Curses. Looks like I'll be either up late or claiming the wooden spoon again.
Clues flying thick and fast here! Herculean indeed ;-) The Dan Brown one did give that one away, Bon, though it just confirms my likely guess for 23dn where I have absolutely nothing on the wordplay. Haven't visited enough Malaga brothels, I guess.
I'm OK with 4ac - the defn seems sneaky enough to me, and the same word is applied with different parsing and meaning. Not sure why you'd be upset at 24dn, seems fine to me. Looks like we're all in the dark on 20dn, where I presume there's some cultural reference escaping us.
For the record, still seeking 21ac and 18dn, 6 and 7dn, 10 and 16ac. Fresh eyes, let's see how they go...
Anthony Douglas — 10 August at 10:58PM
Feeling silly that I'd picked the first part of 7dn, and the defn, and not got it much earlier.
Still waiting for 10ac and the SW two.
Anthony Douglas — 10 August at 11:01PM
Ok, have a loose-ish wordplay that works for 10. Can I dodge the bullet?
Anthony Douglas — 10 August at 11:19PM
Squeaked in. 18dn last in, once I decided to abandon Yoko Ono. A good decision, I guess. But rattled enough that I doubt #8 will fall into place for me nicely tomorrow :)
Offa ruled England for nearly 40 years and built a dyke that runs almost the entire length of the Welsh border. Seems unfair that Hadrian gets more press.
Boniface — 11 August at 10:28AM
ERRK! I blew 9078 and so must gracefully plummet to zero. Not that I didn't enjoy it - it was great fun really and left me with a pb of 21. Only wish I'd kept trying with it.
Never heard of Tiepolo (which I managed to fluke) and I still don't fully get the wordplay for ANNAL - anyone?
DA — 11 August at 10:35AM
Bizarrely Bon, ANNAL was my first in. Look at the 'tips' of the saucy travelogue: sea captain in Malaga brothel.
I survived, though not without a few scraps. SILAS I suppose is heard to sigh less. How the hell does HISTOGRAM work? I knew the word, but dind't get hip to the play. (And energy as INPUT was pretty footloose too.)
But a great leveller. Like the look of 9079's pattern, and the brevity of the clues. Think my tally is on 2. Or 3 - the number since my FINE/WINE slip anyhow.
Boniface — 11 August at 10:52AM
Thanks DA - when I first looked at that clue I considered and disregarded SCIMB of course - but didn't even look at the ends. Lessons.
With HISTOGRAM, I was working with MARGO backwards.
With INPUT, where's the "partial" indicator?
Anyway, onwards and upwards (I hope).
Anthony Douglas — 11 August at 11:13AM
@DA - and S for singer, apparently, is a legit abbreviation.
Bon - what was your error?
Today's so far shows plenty of easy openings in each quadrant, though no corner has fully cracked yet. 8dn seemed a pedestrian clue for what could have been witty done right. And 10ac seems a bit dodgy?
Boniface — 11 August at 12:50PM
9079 in, so I've reopened my account with the grand total of 1, with any luck. It became a bit of fill-in after a while, I don't think anyone will have any trouble with it.
First in 6D, last 24D. Liked 1D (I think exchanges can be excellent when done properly). Thought 23A a bit meh - the surface reading is at least huh, although I get the machinations of the clue itself.
And I've seen 7D on several occasions.
From the rear of the peloton,
Bon
@Anthony: I got 1D out of order. Back to the books (the Odyssey or Iliad or whatever it is).
Anthony Douglas — 11 August at 02:41PM
Commiserations, Bon - it really was a cruel anagram clue.
Anthony Douglas — 11 August at 04:30PM
Eight for me. The brandy snapped the last two. You're right, Bon - 1dn was a nice substitution.
DA2 — 11 August at 06:33PM
A brisk trot. No zingers but fun.
Not sold on how 18dn operates - and a twin meh (mild) attached to 1ac and 13dn. See their mutual flaw?
Anthony Douglas — 11 August at 08:17PM
When you said mutual flaw, I thought you'd go after 11ac and 6dn. Do you mean mutual, or a 'you can't have your cake and eat it too' type flaw?
DA — 11 August at 10:11PM
Now that it's late, I can say that GANG = BAND in both wordplay and solution, just as SWALLOWTAIL is named in honour of the SWALLOW. What I called Tapeworm Syndrome, as explained in Puzzled, but I won't go on -
All in all, a succinct sweetmeat.
Anthony Douglas — 11 August at 10:54PM
Perhaps a different nuance to BAND, but yes, I'll concede that. 'Ring with silver on popular style' or something similar perhaps.
Boniface — 12 August at 01:44PM
9080 complete except for a major ?? on 21A. A knowledge of botany will come in handy and in keeping with that, 1A could have been clued using its anagram.
25A is too basic - I think it tried to be a cryptic def but didn't get there, IMO.
But there are treasures here too - 10A, 18A, 12D, 20D.
ALALLL good fun!
RK — 12 August at 02:40PM
Knocked this one over pretty quickly.
I got a bit of a shock when I saw 21ac. It's a word I once stumbled upon in my dictionary and took a shine to, so I decided to insert it into my vocab (as you do). I've never come across it in any other context until today.
Totally agree with you Bon about 25ac. Where's the cryptic?
Anthony Douglas — 12 August at 08:43PM
I think 25 is meant to be a cryptic definition - which it barely is - or a tee hee, pretending to take the answer literally in some sense.
I fear I may be relinquishing the lead shortly. Seems heavy weather today, after a fairly good start. Serious vocab challenge issues - 1ac, 6dn, 7dn - and they're the ones I've got. Now that I hear RK's seen it twice in her life, I fear 21ac...
Anthony Douglas — 12 August at 09:25PM
We return to normality. I punted on the made-up word for 21, being unfamiliar with the word and the smaller component of the wordplay. I was never any good at football, so the punt sailed wide.
Back to zero. At least I punted on 7dn correctly. And I still have DA's own ahead of me.
Boniface — 12 August at 10:08PM
If it's any consolation, I'm joining you at the bottom of the pile, Anthony. I didn't know 21A and wrongly punted on ETHE as a deletion of G and O from GOETHE, all the while fretting about railway. I now see that the right answer is in Chambers and some online ditionaries but not in any of my other major dictionaries. A word on the edge if ever there was...
DA — 13 August at 09:10AM
AEROLIFTER
ZEROSITTER
DEMONISTER
Sounds like you lot had no troubles with that 'air trip' clue - but I'm snookered. Could be back to zero unless I find epiphany over the next espresso.
(Off to meet a quorum of DA Trippers now, in a paisley flak jacket.)
Anthony Douglas — 13 August at 09:31AM
I won't say no troubles, but it was definitely a sneaky clue.
For what it's worth, this weekend's DA puzzle was quite tough, but fun. The NW corner held me up (I wasn't sure you could say that in a family newspaper...) - for a moment I contemplated entering 1ac as AWFUR and blowing a raspberry!
Anthony Douglas — 13 August at 03:13PM
As for today's (still going)...well, I'm quite happy with 14dn, let's just say that. 17ac was fun, and 16ac was nasty but guessable.
Boniface — 13 August at 04:38PM
9081 done without a hitch.
9A has to be one of the most common words in these - I've seen it at least half a dozen times in the last year.
And there's that fellow again in 10A.
Nice deception in 3D, I think DA might like that one.
RK — 13 August at 04:50PM
Just sat down to begin today's offering, only to discover no crossword with my delivered Weekend Oz (or Review or magazine for that matter). Heads will roll. Or I'll reluctantly throw a couple more bucks News Limited's way tomorrow.
RobT — 13 August at 05:29PM
Very tough Sunday Times today. Hardest for a long time! #749
Anthony Douglas — 13 August at 08:53PM
I'm done too. Nice to bounce straight back after ECHT stopped me at ACHT.
3dn was clever - 7dn too, for a different reason.
RK, I think it's worth the couple of dollars - but you could go for a trial of the Oz's online replica that's free for a week, if you're impatient!
DA — 14 August at 02:28PM
NEGOTIATOR....I don't believe it. A darn anagram under my nose, when all the while I presumed the clue was a pun.
Red-faced now, I'd been looking at air trip as an oblique reference to a broadcast blooper, or a song melody, or a transit flight, or a...anything but an anagram. Some days you just feel a dope. I was got.
So, back to zero, with Saturday's a timid one in the plus column. (Made a few game stabs in the NW corner.)