Cryptic Court 2

SHAMPOOERS: Dirt-throwers swallow their own medicine

Racy wordplay RobT - but where's thou definition, brother?

I thought 1 was OK as it's not an anagram but a reversal

The others are all a bit dodgy with Araucaria's being the one part of his work that I sometimes take issue with - using "part of" or similar to signify an unspecified number of letters from a word.

True, X - and if we view 'upset' as reversal, and not anagram, then AGE (and IRON) are both there to be seen. Surface sense is also sound. And notbaly, this was a Down clue.

I'm thinking Brummie is exonerated. No charges to answer. The rest?

Sorry...still in Melbourne Cup mode:

SHAMPOOERS: Dirt-throwers take their own filth to the cleaners

Bingo. A beauty.

IRON: Stick in or out?

I quite like No. 2. I think it all works in context, it's amusing, and what's wrong with the occasional flakiness? (Which, by the way, ties in nicely with the theme.)

Agree that No. 1 is fine as it's a reversal. Its only crime is being too easy, but the surface is great.

No. 3 gets a no vote from me. Voce and voice - same thing in my book.

And No. 4 is just downright weird. Agree that 'part of' doesn't cut it.

SOTTO VOCE: 'Toots' and cove intertwining in whispered tones.

DEMURE: Me? Rude? Au contraire.

1. I don't like it at all because it should indicate reversal then removal of 'age'. As it is you can't tell. (B-)
2. I have no idea what a junior has to do with a shampooer. Ironically, clear as mud. (C+)
3. Yes a bit loose (I hate it when the root of an answer is used in the clue) but I don't loudly mind given it's in a different language. (B-)
4. Slack. He should be ashamed and should be made to do penance if he were Catholic. (C+)

I'm happy with the first if it's a down clue; that was my thought when I read it (with the answer accompanying, granted, so I didn't have to think about it), and I'm pleased to see it confirmed. As an across clue it would be rightly panned.

For the rest, class me with RobT, although without the hate.

Hey, I'll go out on a limb and say I think 1 is a perfectly fine clue. The surface reading is impeccable, and as a down clue, I see no problem. Upset can be up-set, or upset - it's an indicator that works in different ways, and I'm sure there are other words in that category.

Rollers takes a bit of work. I assumed it was a reference to wheels, in which case, I believe that's been done before. The dodgiest part is the definition - but if it's a themed puzzle, you've got to expect that. Pass.

3 - it's a different language, and the clue uses verb rather than noun form. If we're going to complain about uses of other languages giving away chunks of the answer, there's a whole can of worms, French articles and so on to deal with. I'd pass this one too.

4 - It must have been close to his deadline. That being said, he supplies the fodder in the clue, so it's not an unlimited set of possibilities. It might be unorthodox, but it's not unfair.

I reckon 1, 2 and 4 suck because they break cryptic crossword conventions; 3 sucks just because it sucks.

Iron: Roll roll roll (4)

IRON: Club sandwich
SHAMPOOERS: Homer soaps combover with washers.

For me, 1 is fine but the rest are not.

2's def is far too loose, even given the context. 5 lashes.

Apart from the dodgy use of VOICE, 3 is grammatically incorrect IMO (it should be "...I departs" but then that ruins the surface reading). 10 lashes.

4 is just plain lazy with a surface reading straight out of Dr Seuss. 5 lashes.

Jeez I'm glad that some of my clues aren't hauled before the Cryptic Court...

The peepz of Cryptopia have spoken.

Clue 1 sees Brummie exonerated. (With only an AS hiss)

Clue 2 affords Arachne a stint of community service in Lola's Salon.

Clue 3 gives Bonxie a week's detention in an echo chamber.

Clue 4 puts Araucaria under house arrest for 10 days, where he'll need to buy his butter online.

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