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January 19 2012

Hip-Hop Flip-Flop

images Big storm in a small teacup last week, based on a hip-hop clue in the New York Times crossword. The setter in question was Joe Krozel, overseen by editor Will Shortz. The clue was 28-Down in the Saturday puzzle: Wack, in hip-hop.

The answer was ILLIN, which was news to me, and news to Julieanne Smolinski too, a freelance journo in hier 20s who’d only known ILLIN to mean cool, or menacing. Whereas wack means crazy, or stupid. Like going into KFC and orderin' a Big Mac, according to Run DMC – that’s illin'.

The ruckus magnified into rumpus – or maybe the other way around. But hip-hop can do that, or slang in general. Just like wicked, or gay, or bad…street words have a habit of reversing direction. They mutate in your grasp. Part of me sides with Shortz, defending his clue from a dated dictionary, just as I get Smolinski’s POV. Words change. Both parties are right – with one party more current than the other.

What other words have done a U-turn in our lifetime? I like how swipe has gone from meaning to steal, as well as to use a credit card. Or yo-yo has gone from toy to biscuit to a pair of homeboys passing in da street. That’s illin'. Any others?

Comments

Mauve — 19 January at 11:49AM

The much-travelled yo-yo also passed through "diet" at some stage

And not quite on brief but re U-turns, I find interesting the fact that when the five temperatures...
cold, cool, warm, lukewarm, hot
are applied to people, #2 #3 and #5 are compliments and #1 and #4 are insults.

JPR — 19 January at 02:35PM

I believe brownie points has reversed its meaning.
quantum leap has in a way -- from the smallest possible jump to to a very big one.(but perhaps that's just GI)
again state of the art used to mean off-the-shelf, industry standard -- sort of now means cutting edge instead.
literary theorists have discussed pharmakon as a term with 2 opposite meanings as I recall. but so does 'draw the curtains' (actually that has got 3)

Boniface — 19 January at 03:00PM

My candidate would have to be SICK for a 180 degree reversal: Dave's new hotrod is truly sick! MAD is similar.

Closely followed by AWESOME which basically means anything remarkable but not awesome: Australia's bowlers in the Border-Gavaskar trophy were awesome.

While ORDINARY or AVERAGE have come to mean something rather less than ordinary or average: After two bottles of wine at Christmas, I felt ordinary on Boxing Day.

As for NICE, well that's just damnation by faint praise.

And I won't touch NASTY...

JT — 19 January at 03:37PM

Similar to SICK and MAD: The youngsters also use "filthy" as a positive word, as in "Dave's new hotrod is filthy!"

And imagine my confusion some years back, having just played my first gig with a new band, when the guitarist commented "Those solos you played were bulls**t", also apparently a compliment.

RobT — 19 January at 04:05PM

LOL now has turned into an expression of amusement rather than outright 'forte'. It's like a receding hairline, I am guessing.

JPR — 19 January at 04:15PM

Hi JT, sorry, I was there at the gig, actually they were just bulls**t LOL (sotto voce)

PRS — 20 January at 10:25AM

Following from Mauve's temperatures, cool and hot are frequently interchangeable, perhaps, as Bon suggests - awesome.

And, caused by the semi-literate, since flammable is the new inflammable, does inflammable now mean 'won't burn' to those who don't know nonflammable?

DA — 20 January at 03:05PM

Speaking of flames, JPR - a curio I struck in the diciotnary this morning.

FLAME - a sweetheart; a hostile email (as in flame war)

DA — 20 January at 03:06PM

Of course a diciotnary is an OED for those with ADHD.

JPR — 20 January at 05:10PM

and a dicksionary is an OED for those with ACDC.

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