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September 20 2011

Low-Hanging Fruit

eve So many years solving corsswords, you come to recognise some chestnut clues. Stuff like ANTWERP = An idiot in Belgium. Or AFTERSHOCK, which is bound to read: Dessert wine no great shakes (10)

We’ve spoken about Cliché Clues before now. In fact, we spent a Storm on the topic, but after Geoff Bailey’s quick zebra clue for zareba (a fine clue, it must be said), the issue of well-trodden paths arose. Those over-familiar words inviting the over-familiar wordplay.

So this week we break the shackles and dream up new approaches. Instead of mega-tarts leading to weeknights, or stand-in grooms going hand-in-hand with standing room, we go with Plans B, or C, or D. A fresh formula, at least.

Below are the six words, beside their deja vu clues. Can you shrug off the chestnuts, resist the low fruit, and make an original gem of your own? And just to invigorate the contest, let’s all choose a typical Crossword Word as alias for the exercise. You may go with Adit, or Ennui, or Conference Pear – a word that only seems to exist within puzzledom – just to make the final judgement honest.

CLUELESS – (8)

EDAM – Cheese manufactured in reverse (4)

NOSTALGIA – Lost again perhaps in the past? (9)

PROVERB – Saw dog wearing lead (7)

SCRAMBLED EGGS – GSEG (9,4)

WEEKNIGHT – Small piece for Monday evening? (9)

There’s the set. So choose an alias, and break the shackles. Just use each word’s initials to tell us which answer you’ve chosen (like N: Giant also suffered back-pain?) and file your final six by Thursday dinner. Show some pluck and get plucking!

Comments

RobT — 20 September at 08:40AM

Sorry DA...I am a relative newcomer...can you please expand the requirement to "choose a typical Crossword Word as alias", braps with an example?

RobT — 20 September at 08:50AM

Aaah...a pseuDAnym?

DA — 20 September at 09:02AM

Crossword words? Be a pleasure. Feel free to choose your alias amid:

ogee
etui
okra
elan
obol
ecru
dacha
eclat
adipose
tsarina...

...any word that seems to inhabit xwords only. You know them when you see them.

JPR — 20 September at 09:06AM

in terms of rubric... could you please also run the megatarts/weeknights past moi again? thought i recognised the former but then i didnt

JPR — 20 September at 09:09AM

ok then i think i did get megatarts, its reverse right? ok, just like Yarra Trams

DA — 20 September at 09:10AM

@JPR - as soon as you see weeknights is wee + knights, or stratagem in reverse makes mega-tarts, then most compilers are powerless to resist the wordplay. This Storm is all about forging new paths and plucking rarer fruit.

In practical terms, choose a crossword alias, and create a novel clue for any of the six words listed. Good luck, 'Apse' (or whatever byline you choose!)

ha-ha — 20 September at 09:21AM

E: Asian bar food diet popular in the Netherlands (4)

W: Pretty head over heels admits Joseph approaching the weekend! (9)

To wit — 20 September at 09:40AM

C: Sells cue - broken and without a tip (8)

To wit — 20 September at 09:45AM

E: Big cheese sits in Notre Dame (4)

Completely Clueless — 20 September at 09:47AM

P: In favour of "action over words"?

Prince of Squares — 20 September at 09:52AM

E: Volcano in Vietnam (4)

To wit — 20 September at 09:56AM

W: After we've downed tools, we crown the king (9)

Ennui — 20 September at 10:23AM

S. Yesterday's inspiration was a breakfast dish.

RA — 20 September at 10:25AM

C: Dopey sculls beetroot shake.

Ennui — 20 September at 10:26AM

I thought I was being original with my alias. Oh well.

Ewer — 20 September at 10:30AM

C: To make a smaller puzzle leaves one confounded.

E: First couple crossed for notorious food!

(don't blame me, DA, it was your idea)

P: Pawn run over before The King's Speech.

Prince of Squares — 20 September at 10:34AM

M: Oddly remote celestial body (6)
I: Canniest form of example (8)
S: Spies returned utensils (6)
T: Possibly altering instrument (8)
R: Buy more and check singlet (8)
M: Growth on the face must be sore (8)

Aria — 20 September at 10:41AM

E: Hoover possibly trailed English cheese

Ewer — 20 September at 10:47AM

Uh...Prince of Squares, you may want to check the instructions again.

W: Plays Game of Thrones regularly?!

(couldn't resist)

To wit — 20 September at 10:50AM

N: Allegations the French denied about homesickness (9)

To wit — 20 September at 11:08AM

P: A bird in the hand to show the guts of bowerbirds? (7)

We Hear — 20 September at 11:15AM

E: Fromage d'Amsterdam?! (4)

Ennui — 20 September at 11:24AM

W. I knew the 'G' was abandoned M - F a/h.

RA — 20 September at 11:24AM

E: "Cheese!": 'Candid Camera' card I can take out and play.

We Hear — 20 September at 11:29AM

Can anyone advise on:

N: Sounds like a good night in Cardiff (destroying brain cells) is not what it used to be (9)

The homophone (nos da) doesn't leave a pronounceable remainder (LGIA). Is that fair?

Prince of Squares — 20 September at 11:37AM

V: Horribly evil! (4)
A: Terribly enraged! (7)
N: Some insane Roman! (4)
S: Some careless language! (5)
P: Cop in male form (9)
I: One's cold to walk over (6)

Prince of Squares — 20 September at 11:44AM

Oh right... thanks, Ewer. My mistake. Oops!

RA — 20 September at 11:44AM

Soviet leader takes off from A-1 glasnost reassembly: aahh for the good old days!

To wit — 20 September at 11:45AM

Here's a Sydney-centric clue:

S: Made waffle in school, a hot breakfast? (9,4)

RA — 20 September at 11:45AM

Sorry that was "N".

We Hear — 20 September at 11:50AM

P: Maxim held balls with quiet music (7)

alee — 20 September at 12:00PM

C: Cher has no idea (8)
E: Persevere, Damien - the answer lies within the city (4)

And a groaner as bad as DA's original
W: I heard Sir Edgar needs to hit the gym this eve (9)

To wit — 20 September at 12:03PM

Right then, here are mine with a couple of edits:

C: Sells cue, broken and without a tip (8)
E: Big Cheese seated in Notre Dame (4)
N: Allegations the French denied about homesickness (9)
P: A bird in the hand to show the guts of bowerbirds? (7)
S: Made waffle in school, a hot breakfast? (9,4)
W: After downing tools, we crown the king (9)

alee — 20 September at 12:29PM

N: How I miss those days I sat, long ago, careless and effortless! (9)

Ennui — 20 September at 12:31PM

P. Maxim, with carbon-fibre vorpal sword back in hand.

Rep — 20 September at 12:44PM

N: Analogue Captain's Log makes me think of the past.

alee — 20 September at 01:01PM

P: Prove with reasoned brilliance, first and foremost, that you can't win them all perhaps?

Wether — 20 September at 01:25PM

I bags the name WETHER

Tup — 20 September at 01:28PM

No, I prefer the extra virility of TUP

We Hear — 20 September at 01:41PM

P: Saying "Bowled!" after spin bowler's turn (7)

Prince of Squares — 20 September at 01:44PM

Back on topic:

P: Saw for saw, for example (7)
E: Cheese drunk on mead (4)

I really want to do 'Use brain cells (or perhaps not)' for clueless but the fidder is sadly around the anaram cue.

We Hear — 20 September at 01:46PM

W: Go and think differently about first grade at school tomorrow (9)

RA — 20 September at 01:48PM

P: Non-English Beevor publisher finishes workbook.

We Hear — 20 September at 01:58PM

C: Oddly-coloured leek signals hollow retelling of Emma (8)

Ennui — 20 September at 02:01PM

E. Cheese with green soybean starter.

We Hear — 20 September at 02:04PM

My 6:

C: Oddly-coloured leek signals hollow retelling of Emma (8)
E: Fromage d'Amsterdam?! (4)
N: Sounds like a good night in Cardiff (destroying brain cells) is not what it used to be (9)
P: Saying "Bowled!" after spin bowler's turn (7)
S: Launch Jakki's breakfast, perhaps (9,4)
W: Go and think differently about first grade at school tomorrow (9)

RA — 20 September at 02:14PM

S: Brad McGee gasps every other bump: heart-starter!

RA — 20 September at 03:39PM

W: Low-end interjection about time for parent-teacher interview, say?

alee — 20 September at 03:50PM

S: 'Deconstructed Caesar salad' ingredient?

JPR — 20 September at 08:06PM

W: Sir James Riddle ends Mon thru Fri

Completely Clueless — 20 September at 09:34PM

W: Work tomorrow for little entitlement?(9)

W: Around eight, knew it was time to turn in... (9)

C: Brain cell uses for "Puzzled" (8)

C: Stupid board game called "DO"? (8)

Completely Clueless — 20 September at 09:48PM

SE: At breakfast, consumed blow and exhausted urges (9,4)

Completely Clueless — 20 September at 10:27PM

N: Oblige Satan without belonging (9)

E: Electric trams leave Amsterdam dairy compound (4)

Completely Clueless — 20 September at 10:46PM

Forgot anagrind for N above ^. It's been a long day...

N: For lesbian toga dance, remove belongings (9)

Completely Clueless — 20 September at 11:00PM

C: Stupid board game called "D'oh!"?

RobT — 20 September at 11:06PM

Here are my entries, m'lud:

C: Dopey sculls beetroot shake.
E: "Cheese!": 'Candid Camera' card I can take out and play.
N: Soviet leader takes off from A-1 glasnost assembly: aahhh for the good old days!
P: Non-English Beevor publisher finishes workbook.
S: Brad McGee gasps every other bump: heart-starter.
W: Low-end interjection about time for parent-teacher interview, say?

Isla Fisher — 20 September at 11:13PM

For your consideration.

E: Europe's premier block of cheese (4)

N: Remembrance at a losing battle (9)

S: Hurried urges, then breakfast (9,4)

W: After school Eve became soft-spoken wild thing (9)

P: Hart versus The Queen: top barrister's advice? (7)

C: KN__K_EHEAD_D (8)

..............................................................................

And finally, one upvote for We Hear's EDAM clue.

Ennui — 21 September at 07:26AM

N. "Remember when we shot down a stag, a lion....."

Ennui — 21 September at 07:34AM

C. No idea how to solve this alpha-numeric puzzle.

We Hear — 21 September at 08:32AM

Thank you, Isla. I like playing around with words that are part direction, part fodder.

Rep — 21 September at 10:01AM

W: Pointless, hapless Stephen Hawking lost time after work.

Ennui — 21 September at 11:11AM

Here's my bunch:
C. No idea how to do this alpha-numeric puzzle.
E. Cheese with green soybean starter.
N. "Remember when we shot down a lion, a stag.........."
S. Yesterday's inspiration was a breakfast dish.
W. I knew the 'G' was abandoned M - F, A/H.
P. Maxim with carbon-fibre vorpal sword back in hand.

alee — 21 September at 11:30AM

C: Cher has no idea (8)
E: Persevere, Damien - what you seek lies within the city (4)
N: How I miss those days I sat, long ago, effortless and careless! (9)
P: Prove with reasoned brilliance, first and foremost, that perhaps all that glitters is not gold? (7)
S: Deconstructed Caesar salad ingredient? (9,4)
W: I hear Sir Lionel didn’t have the strength to joust on Monday evening? (9)

Eremite — 21 September at 12:01PM

W: Sweetheart, think about golf swings after work (9)
S: Yesterday, while making breakfast... (9, 4)
E: ... English mother added cheese (4)
N: Isolating change, one becoming first anticipatory then wanting the way things were (9)
P: Folklore remedies poor braved without ado (7)
C: Doctor uses cell Emma reproduced (8)

Ennui — 21 September at 12:44PM

E.Maiden, in-out-about in Holland.
or:Dutch maiden, in-out and about.

Completely Clueless — 21 September at 10:58PM

C: Board game called "D'oh"!?(8)
E: Electric trams leave Amsterdam dairy compound (4)
N: For lesbian toga dance, remove belongings (9)
P: Call girl indicates action with saw (7)
SE: At breakfast, consumed blow and exhausted urges (9,4)
W: Around eight, knew it was time to turn in...(9)

Completely Clueless — 21 September at 10:59PM

Sorry that last one should be an &lit-

W: Around eight, knew it was time to turn in! (9)

RA — 22 September at 06:52AM

Here are my entries, m'lud:

C: Dopey sculls beetroot shake.
E: "Cheese!": 'Candid Camera' card I can take out and play.
N: Soviet leader takes off from A-1 glasnost assembly: aahhh for the good old days!
P: Non-English Beevor publisher finishes cyphertext.
S: Brad McGee gasps every other bump: heart-starter.
W: Low-end interjection: about time.

RA — 22 September at 06:56AM

Here are my entries, m'lud:

C: Dopey sculls beetroot shake.
E: "Cheese!": 'Candid Camera' card I can take out and play.
N: Soviet leader takes off from A-1 glasnost assembly: aahhh for the good old days!
P: Non-English Beevor publisher finishes cyphertext.
S: Brad McGee gasps every other bump: heart-starter.
W: Low-end interjection: about time for sports practice window.

Completely Clueless — 22 September at 07:13AM

Nice alias RA. Your true identity remains a mystery...

Last minute amendment to my six-

C: Board game called "D'oh"!? (8)
E: Electric trams leave Amsterdam dairy compound (4)
N: For lesbian toga dance, remove belongings (9)
P: Forgive and/or forget?! (7)
SE: At breakfast, consumed some blow and exhausted urges (9,4)
W: Around eight, knew it was time for bed! (9)

RM — 22 September at 07:21AM

My 6, with an edit:

C: Oddly-coloured French article signals hollow retelling of Emma (8)
E: Fromage d'Amsterdam?! (4)
N: Sounds like a good night in Cardiff (destroying brain cells) is not what it used to be (9)
P: Saying "Bowled!" after spin bowler's turn (7)
S: Launch Jakki's breakfast, perhaps (9,4)
W: Go and think differently about first grade at school tomorrow (9)

RM — 22 September at 08:46AM

My 6, with an edit, and this time *without* the indirect anagram:

C: Oddly-coloured French article signals hollow retelling of Emma (8)
E: Fromage d'Amsterdam?! (4)
N: Sounds like a good night in Cardiff with large, large amounts of gin and a longing to go back (9)
P: Saying "Bowled!" after spin bowler's turn (7)
S: Launch Jakki's breakfast, perhaps (9,4)
W: Go and think differently about first grade at school tomorrow (9)

We Hear — 22 September at 08:48AM

I gave away my secret identity! Oops.

C: Oddly-coloured French article signals hollow retelling of Emma (8)
E: Fromage d'Amsterdam?! (4)
N: Sounds like a good night in Cardiff with large portions of gin and a longing to go back (9)
P: Saying "Bowled!" after spin bowler's turn (7)
S: Launch Jakki's breakfast, perhaps (9,4)
W: Go and think differently about first grade at school tomorrow (9)

DA — 22 September at 08:56AM

No worries, We Hear. I didn't see a thing.

Thanks all cluers for your final sets - Ennui, Completely Clueless, Eremite, RA, Alee, Isla Fisher. Any other submissions? You have until gimlet hour tonight.

To wit — 22 September at 09:20AM

C: Sells cue - broken, lacking a tip (8)
E: Big Cheese seated in Notre Dame (4)
N: Allegations the French denied about homesickness (9)
P: A bird in the hand, perhaps, to show the guts of bowerbirds? (7)
S: Making breakfast, waffled in school? (9,4)
W: We crown the king, even on a Wednesday? (9)

TT — 22 September at 09:24AM

At a trivia night at the Shenton Park hotel in Perth in 1985, we thought we were the smartest guys in the room when we were the only team to correctly answer the question: "Which cheese is made backwards." No, not ereyurg.

TT — 22 September at 09:26AM

PS: Do you ever think "syzygy" will crack a showing on L&N?

alee — 22 September at 11:47AM

Please replace my 'E' with below:

E: East Ender cries "He damn well made cheese!" (4)

Sorry and thanks DA.

Ennui — 22 September at 01:07PM

Likewise, can I trade my pair of dutch maidens for my green soybean starters.

model t — 22 September at 03:12PM

C: Thick or thin, enrolling after this
E: Milk derivative bubble, closing the barrier between banks
N: On holiday, even taking in POW camp without a care for history
P: He who lives by the sword, runs from the macarbe vorpal boomerang?
S: Starts scanning cook book preface: eating sheep and horses for breakfast
W: Witless, I swallow scream at looming darkness

model t — 22 September at 03:38PM

Have just seen someone used my P strategy first. How about

P: Solomon wrote one when in Rome

And while I'm here, a minor edit

S: Starts scanning cook book preface: Eating Sheep and Horses for Breakfast

alee — 22 September at 04:36PM

A replacement for my replacement E (this is getting confusing):

E: Eliza Dolittle cried "He damn well made cheese!"

Sorry again DA. Thanks again DA.

okra — 22 September at 04:36PM

P: rambler made it in record time, so they say

W: I possibly knew eight but actually it is one of five

N: There is no way Algeria can lose its queen, the feeling's past!

S: Save Rio!

Prince Of Squares — 22 September at 04:40PM

Sorry but I haven't had time to see if my clues cross over with anyone else's. Though I do like To wit's 'clueless' clue.
Here's my meagre offering:

E: Cheese drunk on mead (4)
P: Saw for saw, for example (7)
S: Leave cook to bleed horses for meal (9,4)
W: Spooner's joint fair late on Monday (9)

okra — 22 September at 04:54PM

Here's my final 2 which I forgot to put up before. Not sure if the Edam one works - it makes sense to me but maybe it to be clearer?

E: cultured am I?
C: Nan is unclean, if you can take a hint

ha-ha — 22 September at 05:59PM

Hopefully not too late…

C: Lost Spooner’s toilet tax (8)
E: Asian bar food diet in the Netherlands (4)
N: AA lost gin cocktail longing (9)
P: For example “Battle prattle” or “Loose lips sink ships”? (7)
S: Dashed to works on the illustration military rank (9, 4)
W: Pretty head over heels admits Joseph approaching the weekend! (9)

Tup — 22 September at 06:05PM

I haven't read the suggestions here so apologies if I plagiarise.

C: Ignorant advice from DA haters?
E: It's red - a milk product inside!
N: Unfamiliar speech fed to grandson about the past?!
P: Watson, say?!

Tup — 22 September at 06:10PM

S: Test tube errors found with OJ?

Tup — 22 September at 06:27PM

Have to be printed away from the weekend....

W: Recent PM imported Ken Done?

RA — 22 September at 06:28PM

Fatal flaw located and fixes:

C: Dopey sculls beetroot shake.
E: "Cheese!": 'Candid Camera' card I can take out and play.
N: Soviet leader takes off from A-1 glasnost assembly: aahhh for the good old days!
P: Non-English Beevor publisher ends cyphertext.
S: Brad McGee gasps every other bump: heart-starter.
W: Low-end interjection: about time for sports practice window.

Tup — 22 September at 06:29PM

C: Ignorant advice from DA haters?
E: It's red - a milk product inside!
N: Unfamiliar speech fed to grandson about the past?!
P: Watson, say?!
S: Test tube errors found with OJ?
W: Latest PM imported Ken Done?

Tup — 22 September at 06:32PM

C: Ignorant advice from DA haters?
E: It's red - a milk product inside!
N: Unfamiliar speech fed to grandson about the past?!
P: Doctor Watson, say?!
S: Test tube errors found with OJ?
W: Latest PM imported Ken Done?

Tup — 22 September at 06:35PM

C: Ignorant advice from DA haters?
E: It's red - a milk product inside!
N: Unfamiliar speech fed to grandson about the past?!
P: Doctor Watson, say, with insight?
S: Test tube errors found with OJ?
W: Latest PM imported Ken Done?

RA — 22 September at 07:10PM

C: Dopey sculls beetroot shake.
E: "Cheese!": 'Candid Camera' card I can take out and play.
N: Soviet leader takes off from A-1 glasnost assembly: aahhh for the good old days!
P: Non-English Beevor publisher ends cyphertext.
S: Brad McGee gasps every other bump and makes a meal of it.
W: Low-end interjection: about time for sports practice window.

ha-ha — 22 September at 07:39PM

A late amendment – sorry, forgot the ‘of’ in S

C: Lost Spooner’s toilet tax (8)
E: Asian bar food diet in the Netherlands (4)
N: AA lost gin cocktail longing (9)
P: For example “Battle prattle” or “Loose lips sink ships”? (7)
S: Dashed to works on the illustration of military rank (9, 4)
W: Pretty head over heels admits Joseph approaching the weekend! (9)

DA — 22 September at 08:16PM

Brilliant stuff - almost 100 posts, from more than a dozen players this week. Look for the results with your scrambled eggs & Edam on Saturday.

(With a new post to chew tomorrow. Great going.)

Ewer — 22 September at 10:12PM

Technically, I only entered a half set, right near the top, which you may have missed.

Ewer — 22 September at 10:14PM

...and I should perhaps have clarified - before = B as the fore(most) letter of 'be'. Don't know if that's new, but I was pleased to discover it.

DA — 22 September at 10:22PM

Thanks Ewer - I have yours in the swag for judging tomorrow. And thanks for putting Prince of Squares straight too.

Chiz -

Boniface — 23 September at 01:10PM

@DA re 25A in SMH Cryptic: nice resistance of the low-hanging fruit yourself today!

DA — 23 September at 01:16PM

Bleakly timely too, given the execution of Mr Davis yesterday. Thanks

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