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March 04 2011

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imagesCA90G3E3 To wrap up a manic week at DA Central, with gypsy spells and mangled movies for company, let’s turn to Alison. This keen solver issued a challenge a few weeks back, that still bugs me – in the best way. See what you make of it:

I’ve always had an interest in language…and have a word question to which I have been unable to find the answer. Like synonym and homophone, I believe there is a similar correct term for words which sound like their meaning. I don’t mean onomatopeia – some sort of “nym” or “phone”. Do you know?

When I asked Alison for examples, she offered the likes of ooze and sludge and greasy, though I prefer flint [which bizarrely almost looks and sounds flinty], or gumption, somehow. Or am I insane?

Alison also mused on hiphop – the word – and wondered if there’s not a linguistic term for this pseudo-semi-onomatopoeic thingummy. And if not, can we invent one?

So there’s your Friday challenge: what words belong on Alison’s list of not-quite-but-sorta sound-like words, and what do we call such varmints? All oozy ideas welcome.

Comments

JD — 04 March at 07:31AM

What about a Sononym?
Splat, drip, sizzle, chop - all sound like their meaning.

Mauve — 04 March at 07:48AM

"astonishing" looks and sounds and feels like someone astonished I've always thought

SK — 04 March at 08:42AM

How about gruff, and hum-drum.

Could these words be called Metaphones?

Boniface — 04 March at 09:57AM

Blob - it's my fave, maybe it's the two soft bilabial plosives that do the trick, like with blubber

Prickle - here, the harsh velar plosive [k] and short i suggest something sharp and unpleasant

ML — 04 March at 10:30AM

I like gnarled... especially if you pronounce the g

Nib — 04 March at 11:36AM

Stutter and Lithp spring to mind. :P

Caramel makes you roll your tongue about the mouth.

I have always liked Dollop.

Drudgery has that glottal sludge-like wallowing on the consonant cluster.

Hot Word from Dictionary.com has a similar article today: http://tinyurl.com/4v5xj2n

Nib — 04 March at 11:45AM

Did my link mark me as a spammer? I nominated
Stutter and Lithp
Caramel
Dollop
Drudgery

JT — 04 March at 12:15PM

Somewhat tangential, but this reminds me of the amusing observation that "pentasyllabic" has five syllables. Which leads to a paradoxical puzzle; to quote Tim Maly:

...[D]ivide all of the English adjectives into two categories: autological and heterological. An autological adjective is one which is self-descriptive; "pentasyllabic", "awkwardfulness", "short". A heterological adjective is not self-descriptive; "edible", "hungry", "monosyllabic", "long". Now, the question we must ask ourselves is: "Is 'heterological' heterological?"

Boniface — 04 March at 02:06PM

JT - I always tell lies.

Ruth Johnson — 04 March at 04:56PM

SMH March 4; Quick Crossword 20 across.
Can the verb "to ensue" ever be transitive?

Mauve — 04 March at 07:47PM

2 opposites:

bubbles and strength

strength is so bolstered with reinforcing consonants it's virtually impregnable, and bubbles looks like it's about to float away

PRS — 04 March at 10:26PM

The world is full of paradoxes, particularly when dealing with self-referential entities. One of may favourites (from the 'N' half of 'L&N") follows.

Divide any set of numbers into two parts: interesting and not interesting, using several criteria.

Then you have the smallest uninteresting number, which, of course, makes it interesting. Ergo, every number is interesting.

JT's post reminds me of "Who shaves the barber" paradox.

PRS — 04 March at 10:27PM

Juggling

Multiplicity

Monotonous

Sam — 05 March at 08:41AM

In one of her detective novels, Dorothy Sayers has Harriet Vane coming to terms with her marriage to Lord Peter Wimsey when she says … “Her – and this was the incalculable factor in the thing - her husband. (A repressive word, that, when you came to think of it, compounded of a grumble and a thump.)” Thankfully things work out alright in the end, despite the body in cellar of their honeymoon house…

PRS — 05 March at 10:21AM

It seems the spam filter may have gobbled these:

Juggling

Multiplicity

Monotonous

Eld Jaws Anon — 05 March at 03:23PM

Regarding the names of these kinds of words, IIRC Kate Burridge talked about this on an episode of ABC's "Can We Help" back in 2009... but of course I can't find a link back to any episodes that old, nor does there seem to be a searchable archive of the "Wise Words" segment (there is a message board but it, too, is not searchable. C'mon Auntie, you can do better!)

Anyway, the stickler :-D in me must point out that it is "onomatopoeia", not "onomatopeia"; the second half is from the Greek verb "poiein" (to make).

philth — 05 March at 03:43PM

ah yes PRS, i love self referential statements

1. Both of these statements are false.
2. The correct term for this syno-homonym business is the Klingon word lolchu'taH

JPR — 05 March at 03:53PM

'Arete' might be a candidate but only if pronounced like it sort of rhymes with 'a pet' which i thought was the correct way -- no 'ay' at the end? [why would there be? -- no accent on the second e? -- maybe a circum-wotsit on the first one but that just sharpens the sound?]

DA — 05 March at 04:42PM

Closest I can get to labelling this subset is the most unsexy tag of PHONAESTHEMES, as per the Wiki entry:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonestheme

The whole topic, with a few threads from this astute forum, is slated to be next week's Wordplay column.

JPR — 05 March at 05:31PM

what about 'oonerspisms'

Sam — 06 March at 10:07AM

So would -mble be a phonaestheme as in

mumble
bumble
stumble
fumble
ramble
rumble
grumble
gamble
tumble?

jerome ehlers — 14 March at 09:56AM

I have a close friend (Matthew Rey) who has campaigned at dinner parties for years now to get the word 'onamatotenor' into the dictionary...

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